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@Approximation said in #3:
> Even with USA drone, weapon, and humanitarian support - what is the cost/benefit analysis of conquering Russia's annexed territories of Ukraine?

Вот тебе на чистом русском ответ - за каждую фразу, которую ты сюда притащил, просто стыдно.
Лепишь пропогандистские штампы без разбора.

Хотя бы этот изврат с приплетанием США с потолка - проснись и посмотри, когда на Украину поставили Химарисы. На второй месяц (!)
Первые два месяца это был конфликт чисто армии РФ и Украины, к которому слова США и НАТО может применить только упоротый пропагандист.

Есть ли у Украины Ф-16? А если нет, попытки приплести в каждую фразу США - типичный самообман типа Россия со всем миром воюет.
Еще раз, если бы Россия воевала с США, то Химарисы были бы на Украине в первую неделю. А если с НАТО, то Ф-16 были бы у них на второй месяц. Проснись по-возможности от этих жалких сказок российского правительства.
calm down, Russia will completely liberate the DPR, then Zelensky, after snorting cocaine, will move to the United States to live out a comfortable old age, Americans will put another puppet in his place and there will be peace
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@kazanchess said in #32:
> calm down, Russia will completely liberate the DPR, then Zelensky, after snorting cocaine, will move to the United States to live out a comfortable old age, Americans will put another puppet in his place and there will be peace
hope you get drafted

or even better why don't you put your money where your mouth is and volunteer for what you believe in, or are you too much of a coward?
@hal9k said in #31:
> Хотя бы этот изврат с приплетанием США с потолка
Oh, are you familiar with Approximation? Does he really understand Russian? Little reveal session)

Many in Russia do not agree that American lend-lease supplies played a big role in the victory over Germany.
Looking at your post, I see that history is repeating itself. Let's neither downplay nor exaggerate the role of US aid to Ukraine, but just look at what has been done.

IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Fact Sheet on U.S. Security Assistance to Ukraine
October 14, 2022
In total, the United States has committed more than $18.2 billion in security assistance to
Ukraine since the beginning of the Biden Administration, including approximately $17.6 billion
since the beginning of Russia’s unprovoked and brutal invasion on February 24.
United States security assistance committed to Ukraine includes:
• Over 1,400 Stinger anti-aircraft systems;
• Over 8,500 Javelin anti-armor systems;
• Over 37,000 other anti-armor systems;
• Over 700 Switchblade Tactical Unmanned Aerial Systems;
• 142 155mm Howitzers and up to 903,000 155mm artillery rounds;
• 3,000 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds;
• 7,000 155mm rounds of Remote Anti-Armor Mine (RAAM) Systems;
• 36 105mm Howitzers and 180,000 105mm artillery rounds;
• 276 Tactical Vehicles to tow weapons;
• 22 Tactical Vehicles to recover equipment;
• 38 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems and ammunition;
• 20 120mm mortar systems and 115,000 120mm mortar rounds;
• 1,500 Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles;
• Four Command Post vehicles;
• Eight National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS) and munitions;
• High-speed Anti-radiation missiles (HARMs);
• 20 Mi-17 helicopters;
• Hundreds of Armored High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs);
• 44 trucks and 88 trailers to transport heavy equipment;
• 200 M113 Armored Personnel Carriers;
• 440 MaxxPro Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles;
• Mine clearing equipment and systems;
• Over 10,000 grenade launchers and small arms;
• Over 62,000,000 rounds of small arms ammunition;
• Over 75,000 sets of body armor and helmets;
• Approximately 700 Phoenix Ghost Tactical Unmanned Aerial Systems;
• Laser-guided rocket systems;
• Puma Unmanned Aerial Systems;
• 15 Scan Eagle Unmanned Aerial Systems;
• Two radars for Unmanned Aerial Systems;
• Unmanned Coastal Defense Vessels;
• Over 50 counter-artillery radars;
• Four counter-mortar radars;
• 20 multi-mission radars;
• Counter-Unmanned Aerial Systems;
• Ten air surveillance radars
• Two harpoon coastal defense systems;
• 18 coastal and riverine patrol boats;
• M18A1 Claymore anti-personnel munitions;
• C-4 explosives, demolition munitions, and demolition equipment for obstacle clearing;
• Obstacle emplacement equipment;
• Tactical secure communications systems;
• Thousands of night vision devices, surveillance systems, thermal imagery systems,
optics, and laser rangefinders;
• Commercial satellite imagery services;
• Explosive ordnance disposal equipment and protective gear;
• Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear protective equipment;
• 100 armored medical treatment vehicles;
• Medical supplies to include first aid kits, bandages, monitors, and other equipment;
• Electronic jamming equipment;
• Field equipment, cold weather gear, and spare parts;
• Funding for training, maintenance, and sustainment.

media.defense.gov/2022/Oct/18/2003098052/-1/-1/1/UKRAINE-FACT-SHEET-OCT-14.PDF
@twighead said in #36:
> hope you get drafted
>
> or even better why don't you put your money where your mouth is and volunteer for what you believe in, or are you too much of a coward?

Even if people believe in the cause they are fighting for - Do governments pay their soldiers well enough to take on the extra-ordinary risk of death in that profession?

I don't see cowardice if he funds the cause, and doesn't do the personal leg-work himself, because we do have a Free Marketplace afterall, and a volunteer army. But, rather, would he give up his home to a Ukranian solider, that manages to live for his fight against Russian agression, where the Ukrainan soldier doesn't have a home because that was destroyed in the Russian Invasion? We can always pay Ukranian soldiers more. (but I don't think that would solve the peace).

I believe strongly in Veteran Benefits. If he believes the Ukrainan should have tough luck, while fighting his war, on the other-hand, then that would give your comment merit.

Let's solve the peace! Let's get an agreement where world leaders are accountable to what they sign, and consequences exist for bad actors.

Enjoy this song. Peace.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQEve-69r6I
@twighead said in #36:
> hope you get drafted
>
> or even better why don't you put your money where your mouth is and volunteer for what you believe in, or are you too much of a coward?

I'm sorry, kid, if my words hurt you, I'm writing about how things work; if you don't understand them, it's your problem, not mine.
And if the Motherland will call me oneday, I will go
@kazanchess said in #39:
> And if the Motherland will call me oneday, I will go

But first, you need to finish the school of course )))

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