The years before the russian attack on Ukraine

@LordSupremeChess said in #9:
> But yet, are they??
All true christians are, yes.
> Ukraine is in complete ruins at this point thanks to Russia. Ukraine never turned Russia into a pile of destruction. And not to mention that calling all Ukrainians terrorists is not fair.

The Ukraine terrorists are in the government and the army, i guess more than that since the terrorists that nato send to Ukraine aren't technically ukraine "army" but yes these terrorists have been attacking russia for years and Russia should defend itself.

@kanYE24 said in #11:
> All true Christians are, yes.
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> The Ukraine terrorists are in the government and the army, I guess more than that since the terrorists that nato sends to Ukraine aren't technically ukraine "army" but yes these terrorists have been attacking Russia for years and Russia should defend itself.
But yet thousands of Ukrainian civilians are being killed every month when they did no crime but live in Ukraine.

@hal9k said in #10:
> @LordSupremeChess question is, are they just ridiculously strange people who recently registered, bought accounts with real people writing or bought accounts with some sort of ChatGPT writing?
I'm afraid you have me confused.

@LordSupremeChess said in #6:
> @FelixCulpa64 and @kanYE24,
> Your views on Putin are just plain immoral in my view. Putin invaded Ukraine, not the other way around. And not to mention that Putin has been in office for 20 years, way longer than he should have.

As u did not address the mention of the Minsk agreements, and the constant breaking of them. Of the encirclement of Russia by NATO, by Victoria Nuland admitting we had biochemical labs in Ukraine near the Russian border. It seems to me that you believe the US government which has destroyed Libya, severly damaged Syria, spent 20 years in Afghanistan and then abandoned those who supported us there, etc..., invaded Iraq under false pretenses, the list is endless. The US and NATO has become unhinged.

How quick you are to say someone is immoral. I think it is immoral to bomb civilians for 8 years and not expect someone to put an end to it. Also it is immoral for the West to push Ukraine to keep sending men to their death. The US is using Ukraine hoping to topple Russia and it does not care how many perish in its futile attempt.

@LordSupremeChess said in #12:
> But yet thousands of Ukrainian civilians are being killed every month when they did no crime but live in Ukraine.

That is the narrative you believe, but the Russians have another narrative, a counter-narrative if you will. Which says that those are all lies. And in fact the nato have lied about everything in this war, when Russia has never lied.

The only people killing civilians are the Ukraine terrorists

@FelixCulpa64 said in #14:
> As u did not address the mention of the Minsk agreements, and the constant breaking of them. Of the encirclement of Russia by NATO, by Victoria Nuland admitting we had biochemical labs in Ukraine near the Russian border. It seems to me that you believe the US government which has destroyed Libya, severly damaged Syria, spent 20 years in Afghanistan and then abandoned those who supported us there, etc..., invaded Iraq under false pretenses, the list is endless. The US and NATO has become unhinged.
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> How quick you are to say someone is immoral. I think it is immoral to bomb civilians for 8 years and not expect someone to put an end to it. Also it is immoral for the West to push Ukraine to keep sending men to their death. The US is using Ukraine hoping to topple Russia and it does not care how many perish in its futile attempt.
The US continues to support Ukraine because they are allies.

@kanYE24 said in #15:
> That is the narrative you believe, but the Russians have another narrative, a counter-narrative if you will. Which says that those are all lies. And in fact the nato have lied about everything in this war, when Russia has never lied.
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> The only people killing civilians are the Ukraine terrorists
Then I'd like to see the evidence.

For those who think this war was started by Russia pls listen to these comments in 2015.

The Causes and Consequences of the Ukraine Crisis

John J. Mearsheimer, the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor in Political Science and Co-director of the Program on International Security Policy at the University of Chicago, assesses the causes of the present Ukraine crisis, the best way to end it, and its consequences for all of the main actors. A key assumption is that in order to come up with the optimum plan for ending the crisis, it is essential to know what caused the crisis. Regarding the all-important question of causes, the key issue is whether Russia or the West bears primary responsibility.

youtu.be/JrMiSQAGOS4

Ukraine is in ruins and the US, which runs NATO like a bunch of lap dogs (Germany so far hasn't even whined at the US for blowing up the pipeline), is largely responsible. It provoked this war, it wanted this war and it got this war, and almost all of the lives lost will be Ukrainian and Russian, which pleases the US. Its goal is to take Russia apart, and make it the Baltics, and above and beyond that to encircle China just as it is currently trying to encircle Russia, with proxy states, some armed with nukes. That was the strategy back in the days of the USSR and Mao, and that is the strategy now. Great power politics, and the US is the aggressor here. It cares no more for freedom and democracy in Ukraine than it did in South Vietnam or Afghanistan or Iraq, but it pretends to, just as it currently pretends to be concerned about those issues in Ukraine, and pretends to be concerned about them in Taiwan. All the US has to do to make the world a much safer place is to content itself with being a regional power, and stop invading countries and overthrowing their regimes in Central and South America, while it's at it. the US got along just fine without being a world power for most of its existence, much less THE world power it is trying to be, and it could easily do so again.

@pretzelattack1 said in #19:
> Ukraine is in ruins and the US, which runs NATO like a bunch of lap dogs (Germany so far hasn't even whined at the US for blowing up the pipeline), is largely responsible. It provoked this war, it wanted this war and it got this war, and almost all of the lives lost will be Ukrainian and Russian, which pleases the US. Its goal is to take Russia apart, and make it the Baltics, and above and beyond that to encircle China just as it is currently trying to encircle Russia, with proxy states, some armed with nukes. That was the strategy back in the days of the USSR and Mao, and that is the strategy now. Great power politics, and the US is the aggressor here. It cares no more for freedom and democracy in Ukraine than it did in South Vietnam or Afghanistan or Iraq, but it pretends to, just as it currently pretends to be concerned about those issues in Ukraine, and pretends to be concerned about them in Taiwan. All the US has to do to make the world a much safer place is to content itself with being a regional power, and stop invading countries and overthrowing their regimes in Central and South America, while it's at it. the US got along just fine without being a world power for most of its existence, much less THE world power it is trying to be, and it could easily do so again.
Afghanistan was only invaded because of 9/11. They refused to hand over the al Qaeda terrorists that planned the attack, so we invaded them. Iraq was because of a misunderstanding. Vietnam was an attempt to stop the spread of communism.