Scotch Game 3...f5

I'm sure you can find some messy lines to surprise people with. I play some very dodgy, personally researched lines that are 100% refutable but gain many, many cheap points in bullet games.

However my personal opinion is that 3...f5 is going to be quite easily refutable even over the board just by playing natural moves.

@tpr I am just now finding reasonable positions with the Rousseau Gambit. It is more new to me than the Schielemann, and the bishop on c4 obviously changes the entire position - but with the help of Opening Explorer and Lichess Engines, I can post-mortem learn ideas that give me ideas that work for me.

The 3...f5 already looked dangerous for Black, but I was willing to strike up convo for the sake of either finding offbeat ideas, or perhaps finding a strong non-theoretical approach. I'm not opposed to the Latvian, but then I don't get the other lines I am liking at the moment.

@Nest_Verch_Rhys do you have a recommended line you prefer to essay against the Scotch? Even the other day I played the traditional lines and faired well, but against a theory jock it might be another story. There was a line that involved ...Nxd4, but it was not to my fancy.

Here's a snarky little line tried a couple of times by a master....

[Event "CZE-chT2 9798"]
[Site "lichess.org/XhAvYPEB"]
[Date "1998.??.??"]
[Round "10.5"]
[White "Bauma, Jiri (2220)"]
[Black "Lamser, Jan (2230)"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[Variant "Standard"]
[TimeControl "-"]
[ECO "C44"]
[Opening "Scotch Game"]
[Termination "Unknown"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 { C44 Scotch Game } Qe7? { (0.07 → 1.29) Mistake. Best move was exd4. } (3... exd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nxc6 bxc6 6. e5 Qe7 7. Qe2 Nd5 8. c4 Nb6 9. Nc3 d5 10. exd6) 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. dxe5 Nxe5 6. Bg5 c6 7. Qd2 h6 8. Bh4 Ng6 9. Bg3 Nxe4 10. Nxe4 Qxe4+ 11. Be2 Bc5 12. O-O-O O-O 13. h4 d5 14. h5 Ne7 15. Bd3 Qa4?! { (-0.63 → -0.10) Inaccuracy. Best move was Qb4. } (15... Qb4 16. Qxb4 Bxb4 17. c3 Bc5 18. Nd4 Bxd4 19. cxd4 Nf5 20. Bxf5 Bxf5 21. Rde1 Rfe8 22. f3) 16. Qc3? { (-0.10 → -1.17) Mistake. Best move was Kb1. } (16. Kb1 Nf5 17. Bf4 Re8 18. b3 Qa3 19. g4 Nd4 20. Nxd4 Bxd4 21. c3 Be5 22. Rhe1 f6) 16... b6 17. Rh4 Qxa2 18. b4 d4 19. Nxd4 Nd5 20. Qb2 Qxb2+ 21. Kxb2 Nxb4 22. Be4 Rd8 23. Nxc6?! { (-1.37 → -2.08) Inaccuracy. Best move was Bf3. } (23. Bf3 Bb7 24. Rg4 Kh8 25. Rf4 Kg8 26. Rg4 a5 27. c3 Nd5 28. Be5 Bf8 29. Nf5 f6) 23... Rxd1 24. Nxb4 Bxb4 25. Bxa8 Bc5 26. Re4 Be6 27. Re2 a5 28. Bc6 Bd6 29. Bh4? { (-1.29 → -3.63) Mistake. Best move was Bf3. } (29. Bf3 Bxg3 30. Rxe6 fxe6 31. Bxd1 Bxf2 32. Kc3 Kf7 33. Bf3 Kf6 34. Bc6 Kg5 35. Be8 e5) 29... a4 30. Re3 a3+ 31. Rxa3 Bxa3+ 32. Kxa3 Bd5 33. Bxd5 Rxd5 34. Kb4?? { (-3.55 → -6.73) Blunder. Best move was Bg3. } (34. Bg3 Rxh5 35. Bf4 b5 36. Kb3 Rd5 37. c3 f6 38. Kc2 h5 39. f3 Kf7 40. Bc1 Ke6) 34... Rxh5?? { (-6.73 → -3.68) Blunder. Best move was Rd4+. } (34... Rd4+ 35. Kb5 Rxh4 36. c4 Rf4 37. g3 Rf6 38. f3 Re6 39. f4 Re4 40. Kb4 Re3 41. Kb5) 35. Bd8 b5 36. Bb6 Rd5 37. Bc5 Rd2 38. c3? { (-3.39 → -4.73) Mistake. Best move was c4. } (38. c4 bxc4 39. Kxc4 f6 40. Be3 Ra2 41. Kd5 Kf7 42. g4 Ra5+ 43. Ke4 Ra4+ 44. Bd4 Ke6) 38... Rb2+ 39. Ka5 h5 40. Bb4? { (-4.63 → -6.78) Mistake. Best move was g3. } (40. g3 f6 41. Bd4 Rb1 42. Kb6 Kf7 43. Be3 g5 44. Kc5 h4 45. gxh4 gxh4 46. Kd4 Rb2) 40... Rxf2 41. Kxb5?? { (-6.20 → -14.94) Blunder. Best move was g3. } (41. g3 Rf3 42. Bd6 Rxc3 43. Kb4 Rd3 44. Bc7 f6 45. Kxb5 Rc3 46. Bd6 Kf7 47. Kb4 Rd3) 41... Rxg2 42. c4 h4 43. c5 h3 44. c6 Re2 45. c7 Re8 46. Bd6 g5 47. Kc6 f5 48. Kd7 Kf7 { Black wins. } 0-1

I'm not sure I've played 1...e5 even one time in my life :-D sorry.